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Christopher Kelsall interviews Russian whistleblower Vitaly Stepanov. Stepanov is the subject of the newly released book The Russian Affair by award-winning British journalist David Walsh.

In this interview, Stepanov talks about finding out his future wife is a doper, while he worked at the Russian Anti-Doping Agency, how corrupt Russia is, generally speaking, and some of the details of where the World Anti-Doping Agency could have acted sooner and listened to whistleblowers.